Phil makes a sympathetic sound. "Psych stuff, right? Yeah, I know that game. It's not an exact science. Sometimes you have to shop around a little until you find something that works well enough."

He fidgets with his pastry, which is marginally more destructive than normal on account of the talons. "But, it's uh, really good that you're on that process, ehn? It helped me a lot, personally. Takes a while though."